“I was definitely a grunt. I think you can say that I was a ditch digger. In college, we were a run the ball on first, second and third down team. We occasionally ran a play-action pass and then punted it and let the defense win the game. I always though of myself as somebody that was hard-nosed. I always wanted to be an extension of the offensive line. I always thought of myself as a smaller tackle and I wanted to play that way. I didn’t ever want a defensive end to think that just because he was going against a tight end that he was going to have the better of me. I wanted to prove to myself that I could go toe-to-toe with anybody in the league in the run game and pass protection for that matter. And then if I was called upon to run routes then that’s what I did and I wanted to make the most of that. But I always felt as a tight end that your first job is to block for your running back. You have to set a point on the line of scrimmage and that’s job number one and then everything else will fall in line after that.”
What was your career highlight and why?
“I think for me it had to do with a team accomplishment when we won the Big 12 championship against Kansas State in 1998. We didn’t have a chance because they were No. 1 in the country. I believe we were down 15 points with like nine minutes left in the fourth quarter and came back and won. We actually won in (double-overtime, 36-33). That was a great memory. That’s one of those that will stick with you because it was a great team effort and a great team win with the offense and defense not giving up. It was one of those you never forget.”
How would you summarize your career?
“I would summarize it by saying that I did what I was asked to do. I split time with a guy (Derrick Spiller) all the way up until my senior year. I was asked to do a certain role and the other player was asked to do a different role than I was but we played at the same time. I embraced that role and I felt like I did that role very well and was able to gain a career out of it. I was going to do my part as a team player. I enjoyed that role and we won a lot of games. I think if you had to summarize it I was a team player and I was fine with that and I loved it.”
How do you feel your experience as a player has helped you as a coach?
“The best thing about it is that because I played the game and I’m not really that far removed from it then I can still put myself in their shoes. I can literally put myself in